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Interviu Gabriele Galimberti
06.05.2013
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E aproape imposibil sa nu-i fi vazut fotografiile pe internet. Italian, calator cu norma intreaga, fotograf, couch surfer - doamnelor si domnilor, permiteti-mi, va rog, sa vi-l prezint pe autorul seriei "Toy Stories", Gabriele Galimberti. Daca numele nu va suna cunoscut, ar trebui s-o faca.

[1.] Dupa ce ti-am vazut fotografiile si proiectele, am ramas cu impresia ca esti mereu pe fuga, mereu prin ceva calatorie, mereu departe de casa. Cum stau lucrurile, de fapt? Cat de mult calatoresti?

Ai dreptate, calatoresc tot timpul. De fapt, de cinci ani incoace sunt mai mult calator decat fotograf.
Fotografia e ca sa am cu ce sa traiesc, dar acum adevarata mea slujba e sa calatoresc. Acum trei ani am pornit intr-o calatorie prin lume prin intermediul couch surfing-ului, proiectul principal la care lucram era despre couch surfing. Timp de doi ani, am calatorit in 58 de tari, iar in fiecare saptamana eram gazduit de catre o alta familie. Am realizat proiectul pentru La Republica, o revista din Italia, in care timp de un an si jumatate am avut o rubrica saptamanala, in fiecare sambata, unde publicam portretele si povestile couch surfer-ilor. Astfel, de vreme ce calatoream prin lume pentru acest proiect, am hotarat sa profit de ocazie si sa lucrez simultan la mai multe proiecte, nu doar la unul singur.

Asa am ajuns sa realizez "Toy Stories" si "Delicatessen with love", proiectul despre mancarurile bunicilor, iar apoi am realizat un proiect despre celebritati locale si seria "Zompi", care cuprinde fotografii cu mine sarind peste tot prin lume, un fel de carti postale prostesti de peste tot de prin lume. Practic, in ultimii doi ani am fost tot timpul plecat prin lume si am realizat cinci proiecte. Calatoria a durat din noiembrie 2010 pana in iulie 2012. La finalul acesteia, am intrat in legatura cu numeroase reviste si agentii, pentru ca am avut succes cu acest proiect (n.r. "Toy Stories"), iar acum am tot mai multi clienti care vor ca eu sa calatoresc. Asadar, acum sunt in cea de-a doua calatorie in jurul lumii; am inceput in octombrie, cu America de Nord si Caraibe, iar in ultimele trei luni am umblat prin intreaga Europa. Acum ma indrept spre America de Sud, iar la vara voi merge in Asia.

 

[2.] Acum esti in Italia?

Acum sunt in Italia pentru doua saptamani, pentru ca sora mea urmeaza sa nasca peste o saptamana, asa ca m-am intors acasa in urma cu trei zile si urmeaza sa petrec doua sau trei saptamani acasa.
Astept sa devin unchi :).

[3.] Unde e locul pe care-l numesti "acasa"?

Aici, in Toscana! E singurul loc unde pot sa spun ca sunt acasa. Dar, in acelasi timp, e un loc in care nu pot sa stau tot timpul. Sunt la tara, in mijlocul pustiului, e foarte frumos, e fantastic. Sunt in mijlocul Toscanei, unde fiecare american ar vrea sa vina si sa locuiasca, si e frumos. Vin multi oameni sa viziteze locurile acestea, dar pentru ceea ce fac eu si pentru sfera mea de interes nu e chiar atat de atractiv. Uneori poate sa fie chiar plictisitor, de pilda iarna nu se intampla mai nimic pe-aici. Imi place sa stau aici, pentru ca e locul pe care-l simt ca fiind acasa, aici imi sunt familia si prietenii din copilarie, dar stau cam douazeci de zile aici, apoi trebuie sa plec pentru o luna, apoi revin. Se poate spune ca viata mea se imparte asa: cam o luna acasa, doua luni in deplasare, o luna acasa, doua luni in deplasare. Asta se intampla de cinci ani incoace.

[4.] Deci te-ai cam obisnuit...

Da, m-am obisnuit. Atunci cand cineva ma intreaba "Cu ce te ocupi?", raspund "Ei bine, sunt un nomad, cu asta ma ocup acum.". Si mai e si fotografia, sunt platit sa fac fotografie. Dar adevarata mea ocupatie e calatoria si sunt un nomad.

[5.] In afara de Italia, care e locul tau preferat din lume?

Greu de spus. Imi plac multe locuri, cred ca mi-ar placea sa locuiesc in California... si imi place Asia.
Am locuit in China pentru o perioada si mi-a placut mult, dar cred ca mi-ar placea sa incerc si Asia de sud, o tara precum Tailanda sau Vietnam. Stiu ca, pentru ocupatia mea de acum, cele mai benefice locuri sunt Europa si Statele Unite, pentru ca intru in contact cu reviste, edituri si agentii. Pentru un fotograf, cea mai mare parte din cerere provine din Europa si America de Nord. As spune ca un loc care sa fie si frumos, si benefic pentru munca mea ar fi Italia, Franta, New York, poate si California.
Deocamdata, insa, imi place sa stau aici si nu planuiesc sa-mi mut resedinta din Italia. E destul de placut sa ai resedinta aici, imi place locul, desi e plictisitor, iar de vreme ce sunt mereu plecat, lucrurile sunt echilibrate.

[6.] Si cum arata o astfel de zi plictisitoare? Cand nu calatoresti, cum arata o zi obisnuita de-a ta?

Cand nu calatoresc, sunt aici. Mare parte din timp mi-o petrec la calculator, pentru ca atunci cand sunt in calatorie, nu lucrez in Photoshop, nu editez, nu-mi arhivez documentele, asa ca, atunci cand sunt acasa, petrec mult timp editand si scriind. Cu toate acestea, in majoritatea timpului cand sunt acasa, daca e vreme buna, imi place sa ies cu bicicleta sau cu motocicleta, asa ca imi petrec timpul
liber in plimbari, bucurandu-ma de zona rurala si de plaja. Totodata, petrec mult timp cu prietenii.

[7.] Ce alte tari pe care nu le-ai vizitat ti-ar placea sa vezi?

Iran, Rusia, Groenlanda, Mongolia... multe, cred. Dar voi merge, mai devreme sau mai tarziu voi merge si acolo.

[8]. Am vazut ca ai acoperit o multime de povesti peste tot prin lume. Care dintre ele te-a atras mai tare, care ti-e mai aproape de suflet?

Cea cu couch surfing-ul. Este proiectul meu de baza, proiectul cel mai bun, pe care il simt cel mai aproape de modul in care vad viata si fotografiez. Nu e doar un proiect fotografic, e mai mult un documentar despre oameni. Ideea proiectului "Couch surfing" a pornit de la faptul ca am vrut sa realizez un proiect despre o retea de socializare, si consider ca cea mai buna e Couch Surfing. E un loc in care, in prima faza, totul se intampla in mediul online, dar ulterior oamenii intra in contact in viata reala, se intalnesc, petrec timp impreuna, impart totul. Cred ca, daca fiecare dintre noi ar fi un couch surfer, lumea ar fi un loc mai bun.

Sunt mai bine de patru milioane de oameni conectati pe acest website. Sunt musulmani, crestini, negri, asiatici, albi... toate tipurile de oameni sunt conectati pe acest webiste, avand un lucru in comun: doresc sa se intalneasca si sa petreaca timp impreuna. E o combinatie intre un concept hippie si web. Alaturarea acestor lucruri functioneaza, iar in couch surfing functioneaza foarte bine, asa ca de aceea am hotarat sa fac proiectul. Simt ca e foarte aproape de ceea ce sunt eu.

[9.] A venit cineva la tine acasa?

O, da, multi oameni! Cred ca am gazduit mai bine de o suta de oameni in trei ani de zile. De fiecare data cand vin acasa, scriu pe profilul meu ca sunt dispus sa gazduiesc oameni. Am o camera de oaspeti, asa ca la fiecare doua-trei zile vine cineva la mine - din intreaga lume. Si imi place.

[10.] Nu ai avut niciun fel de ezitare in a face asta la inceput?

Ba da, la inceput imi era destul de frica. Cand mi-am spus "Ok, vreau sa calatoresc in intreaga lume si sa dorm in casele altora pentru doi ani", eram destul de speriat si nu eram sigur de ceea ce urma sa fac. Dar apoi, dupa o luna de calatorie, am vazut ca totul decurge bine, nu am avut probleme. Toti
oamenii care fac couch surfing sunt oameni de treaba, altminteni nu ar face-o. Asa ca totul a mers bine, iar acum as sugera oricui sa faca asta.

[11.] Desi "Couch surfing" e proiectul tau preferat, "Toy Stories" e cel care a devenit viral.

Da, proiectul "Toy Stories" a devenit mai popular, am avut mai mult succes cu el. Cred ca asta s-a intamplat datorita faptului ca e vorba de un gen diferit de fotografie, pe care aproape oricine, de la un copil mic si pana la bunica mea, il poate intelege cu usurinta. Cand te uiti la fotografiile din "Toy Stories", e usor sa-ti dai seama ce iti povestesc prin fotografii; chiar daca nu explic nimic despre proiect, oricine poate intelege despre ce e vorba. Cred ca de aceea am avut mai mult succes cu el.
Totodata, e mai usor pentru reviste sa il publice. Pot vinde proiectul unei reviste pentru femei, unei reviste pentru barbati... orice gen de revista poate sa includa, in paginile sale, o poveste de acest fel.
La "Couch surfing" trebuie sa intelegi ce am facut. E o serie de portrete de oameni din intreaga lume.
Din punct de vedere vizual, nu au nimic in comun; au in comun ceva conceptual. Trebuie sa citesti povestea ca sa stii la ce te uiti. Poate de aceea am avut mai putin succes cu "Couch surfing", pentru ca e destul de greu sa intelegi proiectul doar uitandu-te la fotografii, trebuie sa citesti povestea. Cred
ca proiectul "Couch surfing" e mai puternic, dar e mai degraba conceptual.

[12.] Ce fel de beneficii, de orice fel, ti-a adus "Toy Stories"?

"Toy Stories" a facut inconjurul lumii. Am publicat unele dintre respectivele fotografii in circa treizeci de reviste din intreaga lume. Din acest punct de vedere, m-a ajutat enorm, pentru ca acum, numele meu e recunoscut in Brazilia, in State, in China... Asa ca pentru mine e mai usor sa intru in legatura cu agentii din intreaga lume si sa le propun proiecte, ma pot duce la ei si ei stiu deja cine sunt. Din aceasta perspectiva, viata mea fotografica e mai usoara decat era acum doi ani, pentru ca oamenii ma cunosc acum. Desigur, m-a ajutat si cu situatia financiara, pentru ca sunt remunerat de fiecare data cand imi vand fotografiile. De vreme ce calatoresc atat de mult, niste bani in plus
sunt intotdeauna bineveniti, pentru ca ma ajuta sa planific mai multe calatorii si mai multe proiecte.
Asadar, da, ma bucur de succesul pe care mi l-a adus acest proiect.

[13.] Spui ca lucrezi mai multe proiecte in acelasi timp...

Da, de fiecare data lucrez mai multe proiecte in acelasi timp, nu pot sa gandesc un singur proiect odata.

[14.] ...deci cat timp obisnuiesti sa petreci intr-un singur loc odata?

Minim o saptamana, maxim doua - mai mult sau mai putin. Media e undeva la zece zile.

[15.] Intreb asta pentru ca sunt curioasa unde intalnesti toti oamenii pe care ajungi sa-i fotografiezi.

Folosesc multe retele de socializare, asa ca am cunoscut oameni pe CouchSurfing, Facebook, Twitter, Hospitality.com... Folosesc retelele de socializare sa intalnesc oameni din locuirle in care calatoresc, apoi le scriu email-uri, rugandu-i sa ma ajute, iar de regula accepta. Se uita pe website-ul meu si spun "Ok, imi place ce faci, pot sa te ajut pentru doua zile". Acesta e un mod bun de a intra in contact cu localnicii. De pilda, cand am mers in China, nu vorbeam limba si nu stiam pe nimeni, asa ca am postat un mesaj in comunitatea CouchSurfing din China, cerand ajutor in a gasi oameni pe care sa-i fotografiez, si am primit o multime de raspunsuri. E destul de usor sa gasesti oamenii din intreaga lume, daca stii cum sa te invarti.

[16.] Banuiesc ca acum ti-e destul de usor sa intri in casele oamenilor...

Da, pot sa intru in casa altuia si sa ma simt ca la mine acasa in doua minute, nu sunt deloc timid. Am invatat cum sa-mi inving timiditatea.

[17.] Bine, tu nu esti deloc timid, dar ei?

In 90% din cazuri, folosesc CouchSurfing ca sa gasesc oameni cu care sa lucrez. Iar daca faci couch surfing, nu esti timid. Majoritatea celor care fac couch surfing nu sunt timizi, le place sa petreaca timp cu strainii si sa ii primeasca pe acestia in casele lor. Cateodata intalnesc si oameni timizi, dar de
cele mai multe ori totul decurge bine.

[18.] Chiar si cand vine vorba de copii si de doamnele mai in varsta (din seria "Delicatessen with love", de exemplu)?

Chiar si copiii sunt, intr-un fel, conectati la CouchSurfing, pentru ca sunt nepoti, frati mai mici, vecini de-ai couch surferilor... Am facut cunostinta cu aceste familii prin intermediul couch surferilor.
Asa ca, intr-un fel, nu a fost deloc greu sa gasesc acesti copii. Si nu sunt pretentios, imi place sa fotografiez oameni normali de prin lume, nu am spus niciodata "Vreau o fetita blonda, cu o casa mare...", pentru ca nu-mi pasa. Am nevoie doar de un copil din localitate, pentru un portret. Putin imi
pasa daca e bogat, sarac, negru sau alb. Vreau doar sa fotografiez pe cineva care locuieste acolo si vreau sa vad ce fel de jucarii are, atat.

[19.] Ce alte proiecte ai in desfasurare?

Lucrez la un proiect pentru o companie producatoare de cafea, pun pe picioare un website numit Coffee Surfing. E un fel de couch surfing, doar ca, in loc de ospitalitate, impart cafeaua cu oamenii. Proiectul e similar cu "Couch Surfing", pentru ca ma plimb prin lume, cunosc oameni, le scriu povestile si ii fotografiez. In principiu, e acelasi lucru, dar e vorba de un concept diferit. Acum caut
povesti despre fericire, asa ca fiecare dintre cei pe care ii fotografiez trebuie sa-mi spuna o poveste despre fericire. Sunt in cautarea acestui gen de povesti peste tot prin lume, ca sa fac un fel de reteta a fericirii. Sponsorul e un producator de cafea, asa ca trebuie sa impart o cafea cu acesti oameni, ca
sa fac intr-un fel legatura cu aceasta companie. De sase luni am inceput sa calatoresc pentru ei, asa ca sunt deja cateva povesti pe website, le puteti citi si puteti vedea si fotografiile.

Interviu realizat de Ioana Filipas

Web: www.gabrielegalimberti.com

English version:

Interview with Gabriele Galimberti [may 2013]

You've almost definitely seen his photos on the internet. Italian, full-time traveler, photographer, couch surfer - ladies and gentlemen, please allow me to introduce to you the author of the "Toy Stories" series, Gabriele Galimberti. If the name doesn’t ring a bell, it should.

[Photos: Gabriele Galimberti]
[1.] After I saw your photos and your projects, I got the feeling that you're always on the run, always traveling, always far from home. How is it, actually? How much do you really travel?
You're right, I am always travelling around. Actually, it's been five years since I've started being mostly a traveler, not a photographer. Photography is for living, but my real job is travelling now. Three years ago I started a trip around the world by couch surfing, so the main project that I have done was about couch surfing.  For two years I have travelled in 58 countries and every week I was hosted by a different family. I was doing this for a magazine in Italy, for La Republica, and for a year and a half I had a page in the magazine, every Saturday, where I was publishing the portraits and stories of the couch surfers.  So I was around the world for this project, and along the way I have decided to use this opportunity of travelling around the world to work on more projects, not just one.  So I decided to make "Toy Stories" and the project about grandmothers' food - Delicatessen with love, then I made a project about local celebrities and my funny things - Zompi (it's me jumping around the world, it's like stupid postcards from around the world). So, basically, in the past two years, I was all the time around the world and I ended up with five projects. The trip was from November 2010 to July 2012. At the end of my trip, I got in contact with many other magazines and agencies, because I had success with this project, and now I have many clients that want me to travel more.  So I'm doing my second trip around the world right now; I started again in October and I was in North America and the Caribbean and for the past three months I've travelled all over Europe. Now I'm heading to South America, and in the summer I'll be going to Asia.

[2.] Right now you're in Italy?
Right now I'm in Italy for two weeks because my sister is going to give birth in a week , so I just came back home like three days ago and I'm gonna spend two or three weeks at home. I'm waiting to become an uncle :).

[3]. Where's the place that you call "home"?
Here, in Tuscany! This is the only place where I can say that I'm home.  But it's also a place where I can't live forever. I'm in the countryside, in the middle of nowhere, it's very beautiful, it's fantastic. I'm in the middle of Tuscany, where every American tourist wants to come and live, and it's beautiful. A lot of people come here to visit this place, but for my work and my interests it's not that exciting. It can also be boring, for example in the winter there's nothing special going on around here. So I like to stay here because this is the place that I feel like home, it's the place where I have my family and my childhood friends, so I like to stay here sometimes, but I can stay here for twenty days, then I need to move for one month, then I come back . We can say that my life is always one month at home, two months out, one month at home, two months out. It's been like this for the past five years.

[4.] So you pretty much got used to it...
Yes, now I'm used to it. When somebody asks me "What do you do for work?", I say "You know, I'm a nomad, this is my work now.". And then I take photos, they pay me to take photos. But my real work is to travel and I'm a nomad.         
 
[5.] Besides Italy, which is your favorite place in the world?
Hard to say. I like many places, maybe I would try to live in California. I like California... and I like Asia. I lived in China for a while and I loved it, but I would like, maybe, to try South-East Asia, like Thailand or Vietnam. However, I know that for what I do now, the best places for me are Europe and the States, because I have connections with magazines, publishers and agencies. For a photographer, most of the work comes from Europe and North America. I would say that a good balance between a nice place and a good place for me to work would be either Italy, France, New York, maybe California. But so far, I like to stay here and I'm not planning to move my base from Italy. It's pretty cool to have a base here, I like this place, even though it's boring in here, and since I'm always around the world, it's a pretty good balance.

[6.] And how does a boring day look like? When you're not travelling, how does your everyday life look like? 
When I'm not travelling, I'm here. Most of the time, I'm working on the computer, because when I travel, I don't work in Photoshop, I don't edit, I don't archive my stuff, so when I'm here, at home, I spend a lot of time editing and writing. However, most of the time when I'm home, if the weather is good, I like to go out with my bike or my motorbike, so I spend my free time going around the place, enjoying the countryside and the beach. I also spend a lot of time with my friends.

[7.] What other countries that you haven't been to you would like to see?
Iran, Russia, Greenland, Mongolia...maybe a lot. But I'm going, sooner or later I'm going there.

[8.] I've seen that you have covered a lot of stories worldwide. Which one caught your interest most,  which one is closer to your soul?
The couch surfing story. That's my best one, that's the main project, the one that I feel closer to me in my way of seeing life and photographing. It's not just a photography project, it's more like a documentary on human beings. The idea of the "Couch surfing" project is that I wanted to make a project about a social network, and I think that the Couch surfing is actually the best. It's a place where, at first, everything happens online, but then people get in touch in their real lives, so they really meet, share time and share everything. I think that if everyone of us would be a couch surfer, the world would be better.
There are more than four millions of people connected on this website. There are Muslims, Christians, black people, Asians, white people... so all kinds of people are connected on this website, and they have one thing in common: they want to meet each other and share time with each other. It's a combination of a hippie concept and the web. If you put these things together, it works, and in couch surfing it works really well, so that's why I've decided to do it. I feel this project is really close to what I am.

[9.] Did anyone come to your place?
Oh, yes, a lot of people! I think I've hosted more than a hundred people in three years. Every time I come home, I write on my profile that I am free to host people. I have a guest room, so every two or three days I have somebody coming here - from all over the world. And I like it.

[10.] Didn't you have any kind of hesitation in doing this at first?    
Of course, at the beginning I was pretty scared. When I said "Ok, I want to go around the world and sleep at somebody else's house for two years", I was kind of scared and I wasn't sure of what I was going to do. But then, after a month of travelling, I saw that everything was going well, I didn't encounter any problems. All the people that are couch surfing are cool people, otherwise they wouldn't do it.  So everything went well, and now I would suggest everybody to do it.

[11.] Even though "Couch surfing" is your favorite project, your "Toy Stories" project is the one that went viral.
Yes, my "Toy Stories" project became more popular, I had more success with it. I think this happened because it's a different kind of photography, that almost everyone can understand easily, from a young kid to my grandmother. When they look at my photos from "Toy Stories", it's really easy to see what I'm telling; even if I don't explain anything about the project, anyone can understand what it's about. I think that's why I had more success with that. Also, it's easier for magazines to publish it. I can sell the project to a women's magazine, to a men's magazine... every kind of magazine can have that kind of story in it. At "Couch surfing", you need to understand what I'm doing. It's a series of portraits of people from all over the world. Visually, they don't have anything in common; they have in common something conceptual . You have to read the story to know what you are looking at. Maybe that's why I was less successful with "Couch surfing", because it's a little hard to understand the project by just looking at the pictures. You need to read the story. If you look at "Couch surfing", I think it's a stronger project, but it's more conceptual.

[12.] In which did the "Toy Stories" bring you benefits of any kind?
"Toy Stories" went all over the world. I've published some of the pictures in maybe thirty different magazines all over the world. In that way, it helped me a lot, because now people know my name in Brazil, in the US, in China... So it's easier for me to get in contact with agencies all over the world and propose them projects, I can go there and they will know who I am. So, in that way, my photography life is easier than two years ago, because people know me. Of course, it also helped me in the financial situation, because I get some money every time that I sell my pictures. Since I like to travel so much, extra money is always good for me, because I can plan more trips and more projects. So yes, it was very good to have success with this project.

[13.] You said you use to do multiple projects at a time...
Yes, I always do more things at a time, I'm not able to think just one project at a time.

[14.] ...so how long are you usually staying in one place at a time?
Minimum one week, maximum two - more or less. The average is ten days.

[15.] I'm asking because I'm curious about where do you get to meet all the people that you photograph.
I use a lot of social networks, so I found people in CouchSurfing, Facebook, Twitter, Hospitality.com... So I use the social networks to meet people in those places, then I write emails asking for help, and usually they say "yes". They look at my website and say "Ok, I like what you do, I can help you for two days". That's a good way to get in touch with local people. For example, when I went to China, I didn't speak Chinese and I didn't know anybody, so I posted a message in the CouchSurfing community in China, asking for help in finding people to photograph and I received a lot of answers. It's pretty easy to find people around the world, if you know how to move around. 

[16.] So I suppose you find it pretty easy to go into people's houses..Yes, now I can go in somebody else's house and make myself at home in two minutes, I'm not shy at all. I've learned how not to be shy.

[17.] Ok, you're not shy at all, but how about them?
90% of the time, I use CouchSurfing to find people to work with. If you do couch surfing, you're not shy. Most of the people doing couch surfing are not shy, because they like to share time to foreigners and open doors to foreigners. Sometimes I find shy people, but most of the time it goes really well.

[18.] Even with the kids and the old ladies (from "Delicatessen with love", for example)?
Even the kids are somehow connected to CouchSurfing, because they are the nephews, little brothers, neighbors of the couch surfers... So I was always introduced in these families by couch surfers. So, in a way, it wasn't so difficult to find these kids. And I'm not so picky, I like to photograph normal people around the world, so I never said "I need a blonde, nice girl with a huge house...", because I don't care. I just need a local kid for a portrait. I don't care if he's rich, poor, black or white. I just need to photograph somebody that lives here and I want to see that kind of toys he has, that's it. 

[19.] What other projects do you have undergoing?
I'm doing a project for a company that makes coffee, and I'm building up a website called Coffee Surfing. It's like the couch surfing, but instead of sharing hospitality, I share coffee with people. The project is almost the same like the "Couch Surfing" project, because I go around, I meet people, I write stories and photograph them. Basically, it's the same thing, but we have a different concept. Now I'm looking for stories of happiness, so every single people that I photograph needs to tell me a story of happiness. So I'm collecting this kind of stories from around the world, to make a sort of a recipe for happiness. The sponsor is a coffee brand, so in a way I need to share a coffee with these people, to find the link to make everything possible with this company. It's been six months since I started travelling for them, so there are a few stories on the website, you can read them and see the pictures.  

Interview by Ioana Filipas

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